Using Kyle's methods for germination, both seeds germinated within 24-36 hours. I left them moist and went away for a night and day and came back and the paper towel was dry! Both roots still looked good, so I wetted the paper towels, removed them and planted them immediately. They both popped up above ground within 24 hours. It was marvelous. I did use Germ Genie to soak them for 24 prior to putting them in the paper towels using the same liquid to moisten them.